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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: May 17, 2007 9:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD second and third orignal lp mixes

this exists as well, and though i'm not much into outtakes and such, this is some cool stuff; can send via post if interested:

Aoxomoxoa Studio Sessions Outtakes 1969

Sandy Troy's TC366 3.75ips Reel->DAT2->CDR

01 Saint Stephen>
02 The Eleven #
03 The Barbed Wire Whipping Party *
04 Doing That Rag #1 &
05 Duprees Diamond Blues %
06 -unknown instrumental-
07 China Cat Sunflower @
08 Cozmic Charlie
09 Doing That Rag #2 !
10 Mountains Of The Moon ^
11 Whats Become Of The Baby? $

Alan Bershaw's A1040SL 7.5ips Reel->DAT->CDR

12. Rosemary
13. Mountains Of The Moon

# Skip at the beginning of The Eleven, the jam at the end fades out
* 0:06- Barbed Wire removed small cut,0:41- removed pop in left channel (!=pop "the B!arbed wire...")
0:57- removed pop
& 1:02- The Rag small bit of noise I could not remove, its hardly audible
3:13-3:19 fade out & in small subsecond silence removed,
% Dupree's fades in
@ 1:25-1:28 fade out & in
! 0:30- 3 seconds of silence
^ 0:30- removed small noise sounding like tape starting immediately following a cut and prior to any music or Jerry singing starts
$ 2:49- noise and cut present

Cd > eac > cool edit pro > shntool > cdwav > shnv3 by Ernie Dodd

I did not want to edit this too much because these are rought cuts and the flaws are part of the character. Instead, I tried to note them. Only minor editing was performed as described above. Additionally, I did take out a few of the small segments of silence between tracks. I did not make any adjustments to the levels.


Discs were kindly provided by Stu Hanson who comments below:

These copies kick the sh*t out of the versions circulating from those Unsurpassed Masters bootleg CDs. These derive from a 3.75ips reel belonging to Sandy Troy with two additional tracks supplied by a 7.5ips reel belonging to Alan Bershaw.

Sandy's reel has all the material that has circulated before and its likely that many of the copies out there trace back to this reel. We *think* this material derives from the original 8 track studio sessions (that were abandoned in favor of using the first 16 track, which had just become available in 1969.)

The two cuts from Alan's reel, Rosemary & Mountains Of The Moon, sound like the same versions recorded for the album, but they seem to be only Garcia's acoustic guitar and vocal tracks, without all the overdubs. They are definitely not to be confused with the earlier mixes that were originally released on the 1969 version of the album. These two tracks have not circulated widely. They are both excellent quality and very beautiful!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: May 18, 2007 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD second and third orignal lp mixes

Aoxomoxoa outtakes on the Archive -

The album is the opposite of live, taking the 2 dimensions of studio recording to the absolute height - one of the 1st 16 track lps...
No Pigpen songs, no Weir lead vocals, it's perhaps the precursor of the 1st solo Garcia lp.

The final product is pure Grateful Dead, and it boasts one of the top album covers (Rick Griffin/Weir) in the psych mood. Yikes!

But like a hologram of a hot potato, it's a technical marvel (for it's time) yet comes off less like magic than ledgerdemain... is that why Jerry toned it down for the next genre ace n'... or was it all jest an an inside joke.

Why (did they - or Jerry -) remix it, I haven't read or heard yet, info please...

One comes away amazed but hungry. All the songs sound better live, though the crazed artistry of Garcia and co.'s nova blast of artificial/natural sounds. Weired but only the beginning of the perennial primal GD.

The sheer weight of the original mix with layers of studio gimmickery is at least shameless, the height of the SF acid band zap trip while the remix tries to slip under the radar and gets caught in it's own barbed wire.

Live Dead was in some ways their greatest live album, again, it was among the very first 16 track records - live this time.

This post was modified by cream-puff-war on 2007-05-18 21:06:23